在经历了这么久的制裁之后，俄罗斯人是如何保持他们的芯片供应并且持续生产导弹这类的先进武器的？真是不可思议
What do you think Russia would do to get semiconductors, chips, microcircuits and other important parts for producing missiles?
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当然，将它们从乌克兰洗衣机中取出。
据最自由、最客观的西方媒体报道，这是一座典型的俄罗斯导弹工厂。
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Of course, get them out of Ukrainian washing machines.
A typical Russian missile factory, according to the most free and obxtive Western press.
当然，将它们从乌克兰洗衣机中取出。
据最自由、最客观的西方媒体报道，这是一座典型的俄罗斯导弹工厂。
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It is outdated, we learnt to launch the washing machines as a whole, so the process of extracting microchips is no longer necessary.
这已经过时了，我们已经学会了整体发射洗衣机，因此不再需要提取微芯片的过程。
Propelled by hypersonic shovels
由高超音速铲子推动
Wash the chip out of it,and the remaining are centrifuges for nuke extraction.
将芯片取出来，剩下的是用于核材料提取的离心机。
Have the UKrainian better things to do than sitting at their desk, inventing this fantasy.
I only laugh at the sheer stupidity and low IQ or intelligence of Ukrainian propaganda staff. They think their audience are all fools.
乌克兰人有比坐在办公桌前发明这种幻想更好的事情要做。
我只会嘲笑乌克兰宣传人员的愚蠢和低智商或智力。他们认为他们的听众都是傻瓜。
Next to Russia is China, they produce all semiconductors. Just need Russia to send drawings
While their process isn't the most advanced, missiles don't require state-of-the-art chips.
Therefore, in 2024, some people are still bringing up the topic of washing machines, and I feel that there is really a problem with the intelligence of Western citizens.
俄罗斯旁边是中国，他们生产所有的半导体。只需要俄罗斯发送图纸
虽然他们的工艺并不是最先进的，但是导弹并不需要最先进的芯片。
所以，2024年还有人在提洗衣机的话题，感觉西方公民的智力真的存在问题
Believe me, they are that stupid
相信我，他们就是那么愚蠢
I believe it was the head of the EU, Ursula, who invented this technology. Because she read a humor article by an ASML employee that German car manufacturers disassemble washing machines to produce their cars.
Ignorance is bliss.
我相信是欧盟领导人乌苏拉发明了这项技术。因为她读了一篇由ASML员工写的幽默文章，文章中说德国汽车制造商会拆卸洗衣机来生产汽车。
无知是福。
You mean you’re not all fools. How many then 90%? 95%? Do tell us.
你的意思是你们不全都是傻瓜。那有多少呢，90%？95%？请告诉我们。
Only a fool believes this nonsense
只有傻瓜才会相信这种胡说八道
Yep, that’s all the pro-Ukrainian zombies who polish their “brain” with propaganda lies.
是的，那些支持乌克兰的僵尸们用宣传谎言来洗他们的“大脑”。
Я ржу в голос)))
我笑出声了)
The microchips from these items are highly sought after.
这些物品中的微芯片非常抢手。
Why doesn't Ukraine itself make missiles when they have so many washing machines??
为什么乌克兰自己不用那么多洗衣机制造导弹呢？？
They do, the drone washing machine. They drop it on one Russian soldier and the widow receive the machine.
他们确实这样做了，无人机洗衣机。他们将其投掷在一个俄罗斯士兵身上，然后寡妇收到洗衣机。
This is top secret information please remove post
这是绝密信息，请删除帖子
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oh, yeah, sure..
哦，是的，当然。
A nice AI illustration. I’m not laughing. Ukraine is really up against the wall. Propaganda this bad doesn’t lift the spirit.
一个不错的AI绘图。我并不觉得好笑。乌克兰真的陷入了困境。这么糟糕的宣传不会提振士气。
If the Western press think they’re free to brainwash us, then we’re free to throw their mindgames down the shitter — which we stole with confidence. LM.
如果西方媒体认为他们可以自由地给我们洗脑，然后我们就可以自由地把他们的心理游戏扔到垃圾堆里——这是我们自信地偷来的。 笑死人了。
Fake photo. Easy to spot as there’s not one bottle of vodka visible.
假照片。很容易发现，因为没有见到一瓶伏特加。
Ако някой все още настоява за обективността и достоверността на западната преса, това означава само, че този някой е абсолютен, индоктриниран идиот - пълен с мозък като лайно с витамини!
如果有人还坚持西方媒体的客观性和可信性，那只能说明这个人是一个彻头彻尾的、被灌输的白痴——脑子里装满了狗屎！
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I’m not sure what’s a better meme, the washing machines for chips or taking Bahkmut by shovel.
我不确定哪个梗更好，是洗衣机换芯片，还是用铲子夺取巴赫穆特。
Unbelivable in this forum how such people is proud to follow the "one way standard think", the official version of TV and governements, repeating as ridicoulus parrots what they heard from mainstream medias and the fovernements…, showing to haven t a minimal autonomus sense of critic skills, and calling "trolls" people who have it.....probabilly lot of them are still waitng that the "famous Saddam's chemical laboratories for mass killing weapons productions ( those of Colin Powell false ptove) will be spotted"
It seems to hear the nazis from 1940, totally brainwashed by system's propaganda....Sure no one of them have read the Orwell' s boock 1984.
What a patetic decadence....
在这个论坛上难以置信，这些人多么自豪地遵循“一种标准的思维方式”，电视和政府的官方版本，像可笑的鹦鹉一样重复他们从主流媒体和政府那里听到的话……，显示出他们没有最基本自主的批判技能，并称那些有批判技能的人为“喷子”……。他们中的许多人可能仍在等待“著名的萨达姆化学武器实验室（科林·鲍威尔虚假证明的那些）被揭露”
听起来像是听到了1940年的纳粹，完全被系统的宣传洗脑了……。肯定他们中没有人读过奥威尔的书《1984》。
多么可悲的堕落……
There's obxtive and verified footage of Russian soldiers stealing washing machines, televisions and whatever else they can lay their hands, but just to add a little balance, there is also footage of Ukrainian farmers stealing the odd Russian tank.
有客观且经过验证的影像显示俄罗斯士兵偷洗衣机、电视机以及他们能拿到的任何东西，但为了增加一点平衡，也有乌克兰农民偷俄罗斯坦克的影像。
obxtive and verified my ass.
客观和验证了我的屁股。
lol this is how peak schizophrenia looks like
哈哈，这就是精神分裂症最严重时的样子
@Giannis Lainas
What about the footage of Ghost of Kiev?
基辅幽灵的影像怎么样？
Lol.
哈哈。
How do you do know that this is untrue? Getting necessary components out of consumer products does not seem far fetched to me. Re-design with different componrnts is possible but will cost expensive and scarce engineering resources.
你怎么知道这是假的？从消费品中获取必要的组件对我来说并不牵强。用不同的组件重新设计是可能的，但成本昂贵且工程资源稀缺。
You know?There are only zombie fighting in Russian Army now
…anyway… i.t seems that this 70 years old oxidates soviet weapons and t54 soviet tanks used by those decadent , demotivated and fully corrupted Russian Army, composed by the lasts russian soldiers surviving, poorly trained and poorly equipped are really hardly beating Ucrania ….fully provided with the biggest NATO’ s forniture of weapons and intelligence of the history , at the point that NATO’ s artillery arsenals are almost empty…
你知道吗？现在俄罗斯军队里只有僵尸在战斗
……无论如何……那些颓废、士气低落、完全腐败的俄罗斯军队所使用的t54苏联坦克是70年代生锈的苏联武器，由最后幸存的俄罗斯士兵组成，训练糟糕、装备简陋，真的很难击败乌克兰……
乌克兰拥有历史上最强大的北约武器装备和情报，而北约的炮弹库几乎空了……
@Shaun Mccrickett
Are you trying to put my brain on spin cycle, if they needed the chips why take all the machine unless a washing machine was good for washing clothes?
你是想让我脑子转圈吗，如果他们需要芯片，为什么要拿走整台机器，除非洗衣机洗衣服很好用？
China supplies plenty and the gray market. What I don't get is why they don't make there own?
中国供应充足，还有灰色市场。我不明白的是，他们为什么不自己制造？
For many decades, Russia has been the second largest arms exporter . During this time, hundreds of billions of dollars worth of weapons systems, including the most advanced ones, were exported. Why did no one notice foreign-made chips in them until February 2022? :))))))))
Of course, all Russian weapons have been made from Russian components since Soviet times.
几十年来，俄罗斯一直是第二大武器出口国。在这段时间里，包括最先进的武器系统在内的价值数千亿美元的武器系统被出口。为什么直到2022年2月，没有人注意到其中使用外国制造的芯片？:)))))))
当然，自苏联时代以来，所有俄罗斯武器都是用俄罗斯组件制造的。
Looks like. A factory base on the moon
看起来像。月球上的工厂基地
Russians are blamed for spate of SPEED CAMERA thefts. Over 160 cameras from Sweden.
俄罗斯人被指责为一系列测速相机盗窃事件的罪魁祸首。瑞典有超过160台相机被盗。
Excellent!
太棒了！
There was a time when most people on Quora believed this nonsense about washing machines. When I told them about JSC Mikron, they laughed at me. Now, apparently, there is a sobering up from the madness of propaganda. Here's a short video about how microchips are made in Russia, first a little history and then how things are at the moment. 65 nanometer chips are produced and this is enough for mechanical engineering and the military.
曾经有一段时间，Quora上的大多数人相信了关于洗衣机的这种胡说八道。当我告诉他们关于JSC Mikron的事情时，他们嘲笑我。现在，显然，人们已经从宣传的疯狂中清醒过来。这里有一个关于俄罗斯是如何制造微芯片的短视频，首先是一点历史，然后是当前的情况。生产65纳米芯片，这对机械工程和军事来说已经足够了。
That’s a fake picture generated by AI - guys are missing legs, arms and hands.
这是一张由AI生成的假照片——人物缺少腿、胳膊和手。
Then send these washing machines where their demand has increased a lot die to coming election's
然后把这些洗衣机送到那些因即将到来的选举而需求大大增加的地方。
You could write in short: "I'm a brainwashed idiot."
你可以简短地写：“我是一个被洗脑的白痴。”
Does Lithuania make any chips?
立陶宛制造任何芯片吗？
立陶宛制造了津巴布韦无法生产的价值的东西吗？
Lithuania produces brainwashed freaks. En masse.
立陶宛生产被洗脑的怪人。笑
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No but we have no pretensions to be a superpower and are not engaged in any wars of conquest dear kleptonazi scum.
不，但我们没有成为超级大国的野心，也没有参与任何征服战争，亲爱的kleptonazi人渣。
Zimbabwe? Must really hit the spot to go looking that far? But hey
you know what they say - Russia is just Nigeria with snow.
津巴布韦？一定真的很合适，才需要看那么远的地方？但，你知道他们怎么说——俄罗斯只是下雪的尼日利亚。
And what is Nigeria you racist scum?
尼日利亚怎么了，你这个种族主义的渣滓？
Small correction. You probably mean Asian chips, not western. US, Germany and Netherlands together have a minority share of the market, the biggest part is Asia (mainly Japan, China and South Korea). I assume Russia doesn’t buy its chips from the US but I could be wrong.
小纠正。你可能指的是亚洲芯片，而不是西方的。美国、德国和荷兰加起来只占市场的少数份额，最大的部分在亚洲（主要是日本、中国和韩国）。我假设俄罗斯不是从美国购买芯片，但我可能错了。
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Designs are mainly western multinational corporations. ARM, STM, TI, Intel, Amd - when you look on chip and see a trademark - most of the time it’s a western company.
Foundries that make them are mainly asian - 2 biggest South Korea and Taiwan.
Neither are Russian. Yes Russians have some very old fabs for military use. But there is a reason most of their modern weaponry is filled with western chips.
芯片设计主要是西方跨国公司。ARM、STM、TI、Intel、AMD——当你看到芯片上的商标时——大多数时候它是一家西方公司。
制造它们的代工厂主要是亚洲的——最大的两个是在韩国和台湾。
这两个都不是俄罗斯的。是的，俄罗斯有一些非常旧的芯片厂用于军事。这就有理由解释为什么他们的大部分现代武器都装满了西方的芯片。
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Doesn’t that make the Russians smart? Making these chips is a lot of money, why waste time when your neighbors can sell you?
俄罗斯人很聪明的，制造这些芯片要花很多钱，当你的邻居可以卖给你时为什么还要浪费时间呢？
It makes them dependent on “unfriendly” countries. Oh sure they can still get it through grey market but that ads extra cost and only works while the west tolerates it.
这使他们依赖于“不友好”的国家。哦，当然他们仍然可以通过灰色市场获得，但这增加了额外的成本，而且只有在西方容忍的情况下才有效。
Fret not Martynas.. even if your stupid, racist comments were true, which they are not, Russia's growing economy would afford it without batting an eyelid.
不用担心，Martynas……即使你愚蠢的、种族主义的评论是真的，也没关系，俄罗斯不断增长的经济也能不费吹灰之力地承担。
The people who are running the gray markets have no interest in shutting them down. Remember the American war on drugs or terror?
经营灰色市场的人没有兴趣关闭它们。还记得美国对毒品或恐怖主义的战争吗？
BS Russian propaganda, everybody know you have run out of washing machine 8 months ago.
胡说八道，俄罗斯宣传，大家都知道你们8个月前就已经没有洗衣机了。
Western press also reported the Russian were using shovels.
西方媒体也报道说俄罗斯人在使用铲子。
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It is said that China produces too many washing machines. So Yellen went to China and asked them to "restrain"
So they shipped all the extra washing machines to Russia
Then the Russians removed the chip from the washing machine and put it in the missile
Oh, blame Yellen
据说，中国的洗衣机生产太多了。所以耶伦跑到中国去，要求他们”克制“
所以他们把多余的洗衣机都运到了俄罗斯
然后俄罗斯人从洗衣机里拆下芯片装到了导弹里
哦，都怪耶伦
:)))))))))) Lol
:)))))))))) 哈哈